Learn how to prevent burnout forever, in under 40 minutes
Guest
Zane McCormack
Episode length
00:34:50
Hosted by
Martin I. Jones
Produced & edited by
Bess Manley

In this episode
Most people think burnout is obvious. That you’ll feel it coming. The reality is, you don’t.
In this episode of the Optimising Human Performance Podcast, former police officer-turned burnout-prevention coach Zane McCormack shares the story of collapsing on the way to work after years of chronic stress, emotional overload, and running on fumes without realising it.
Zane explains why high performers are often the most vulnerable to burnout, how the warning signs slowly compound beneath the surface, and why many people only recognise the damage once their body forces them to stop.
This episode is especially valuable for leaders, high performers, emergency responders, parents, business owners and anyone who feels constantly switched on.
What You’ll Learn
- The five stages of burnout
- Why burnout often affects capable, motivated people
- Early warning signs most people ignore
- How stress changes thinking, emotional regulation, and decision-making
- The link between identity and overwork
- Why recovery is more than just sleep
- The importance of rest, relationships, and boundaries
- How to build resilience before reaching the breaking point
Key Takeaways
- Burnout rarely happens overnight
- High performers often push through warning signs for years
- Chronic stress reduces resilience and problem-solving ability
- Emotional regulation narrows during burnout
- Rest is preventative, not just reactive
- Relationships are a major protective factor
- Sustainable performance requires recovery, boundaries, and identity outside work
Guest, cast & crew
Zane McCormack is a burnout prevention coach and trainer who previously served for 16 years with Devon and Cornwall Police. After experiencing severe burnout himself, he now works with individuals and organisations to improve resilience, recovery, and sustainable performance.
Resources
Chapters
01:49 – The Collapse That Started Everything
03:42 – The Early Warning Signs
06:56 – Burnout Often Hides Until Something Unexpected Happens
08:07 – The Boiling Frog Effect of Stress
09:21 – “The People That Don’t Care Don’t Burn Out”
10:49 – Why Life Outside Work Matters More Than People Think
12:20 – What Was Stopping Him From Recovering Properly
14:01 – Ten Days Without Sleeping or Eating
14:47 – The Bridge Moment That Snapped Him Back
16:20 – Understanding That It Was Burnout, Not Just Trauma
17:05 – The Five Stages of Burnout Explained
22:16 – What To Do If You Recognise Yourself in This Episode
22:53 – The Seven Pillars of Recovery and Resilience
24:55 – Boundaries Between Work and Home
25:13 – Relationships as Protection Against Burnout
25:53 – Doomscrolling, Phones, and Hyperconnectivity
30:31 – Helping High Performers Before They Break
32:48 – Final Advice: Focus on Rest and Relationships
33:14 – Martin’s Closing Reflections on Burnout
