Listen to This Before You Buy Another Supplement
Guest
Phil Learney
Episode length
00:40:39
Hosted by
Martin I. Jones
Produced & edited by
Bess Manley

In this episode
You’re drinking more coffee. Taking more supplements. Sleeping longer when you can.
Yet your energy still crashes. Your focus disappears. Your recovery feels slower. And your nervous system feels permanently switched on.
In this episode of the Optimising Human Performance Podcast, human performance scientist Phil Learney unpacks why so many ambitious people feel exhausted despite investing heavily in their health, productivity, and performance.
Phil explains how modern lifestyles create chronic nervous system overload, why recovery has become one of the biggest missing links in performance, and how sleep influences everything from cognitive function and metabolism to emotional regulation and resilience.
The conversation also explores caffeine dependence, overstimulation, supplement quality, stress regulation, behavioural habits, and why sustainable performance starts with understanding capacity.
If you want more energy, better recovery, clearer thinking, and performance that lasts, this episode delivers a practical framework for understanding what actually moves the needle.
Guest, cast & crew
Phil Learney is a globally recognised human performance expert, sports scientist, and educator with nearly three decades of experience across elite sport, corporate performance, and luxury hospitality.
Phil is the co-founder of HMN24, a neuroscience-led human performance company focused on circadian biology and nervous system regulation, and the founder of the Future Wellness Group, an organisation dedicated to developing science-driven wellness solutions across education, performance environments, and global wellbeing initiatives.
Through his work, Phil helps individuals and organisations unlock higher levels of cognitive, physical, and emotional performance using biologically intelligent strategies.
Resources
- LinkedIn: Phil Learney
- Future Wellness Group: futurewellness.education
- HMN24: hmn24.com
Chapters
00:00 Why High Performers Feel Constantly Exhausted
01:20 Phil Learney’s Journey into Human Performance
03:51 The Truth About Supplements
10:15 Why Most Supplements Don’t Work
14:50 Dosage, Transparency & Ingredient Quality
22:04 Caffeine, Stress & Nervous System Capacity
28:04 Why Sleep Is Still Ignored
32:56 Redefining High Performance
37:35 Where to Find Phil
38:53 Phil’s Final Message on Sleep
39:35 Key Takeaways & Closing Thoughts
